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Should I rephrase the question? :evil:

Is it unethical to square hole a round holed coin in order to attract more interest?

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 Post subject: Re: Is this unethical?
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Of course it is but don't let that stop you.


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Clark has been trying to fit the square block in the round hole his whole life without success.


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 Post subject: Re: Is this unethical?
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Weiss wrote:
Should I rephrase the question? :evil:

Is it unethical to square hole a round holed coin in order to attract more interest?

absolutely. The modern hole will be more easily detected as such


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Got this at a shop today. Runt of the litter, to hear what everyone else bot. They all passed on it.

I was all "Well I'll just get a square nail and fix it". No problem.

Drove down to the architectural salvage place and axed for a square nail. Take two, they said.

Then I got home and I couldn't do it. You know you swallowed the purple drank when you start looking at the edges of a hole and appreciating the metal flow and patina. blink:

In all honesty--the coloration around the hole is identical to the host. And the other side. Earlier attempt with a bowie knife point at 1:00? That hole has been there for generations. I don't have the right.

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 Post subject: Re: Is this unethical?
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Why would a square hole be more desirable than a round hole? With a fairly thin planchet and antique silver which may be brittle, I'd be concerned that a piece of silver would break off if you repunced the hole with the square nail. Leave well enough alone.


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Why would a square hole be more desirable than a round hole? With a fairly thin planchet and antique silver which may be brittle, I'd be concerned that a piece of silver would break off if you repunced the hole with the square nail. Leave well enough alone.


8 reales are actually pretty thick. Not quite as thick as a silver dollar, but not too far off.

I'd do it, or smoebody would, for the same reason that people artificially tone coins or dip them. To make them more marketable. A square hole is more romantic and looks older.

It's moot regardless. It sold within an hour of me listing it--without the square hole. It's a good piece for what it is.

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 Post subject: Re: Is this unethical?
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I'd agree that a square hole might look older, but I'd argue the "romantic" part. :razz:

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Rollo Tomassi wrote:
I'd agree that a square hole might look older, but I'd argue the "romantic" part. :razz:


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ro·man·tic
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of, characterized by, or suggestive of an idealized view of reality.

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You cannot possibly think you could have done it and made it look original. No one is that stupid. Even brian.

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HappyLittleTrees wrote:
You cannot possibly think you could have done it and made it look original. No one is that stupid. Even brian.

I think you are wrong there.


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HappyLittleTrees wrote:
You cannot possibly think you could have done it and made it look original. No one is that stupid. Even brian.


It's a thing.

Silver is one of the most malleable metals, and these antique square nails are tapered. Gently tapping it into the hole (uh huh huh) would have slowly squared the hole. Doesn't take much pressure, and I don't think it would have disturbed the coloration.

I've found dozens of silver rings with my metal detector. They're often bent or even crushed. Putting them back into round with a mandrel and a hammer is pretty simple. Same principle.

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It matters not if the disfigurement is original. HISTORY is our guide and aim.

IF it sells. :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Is this unethical?
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Weiss wrote:
HappyLittleTrees wrote:
You cannot possibly think you could have done it and made it look original. No one is that stupid. Even brian.


It's a thing.

Silver is one of the most malleable metals, and these antique square nails are tapered. Gently tapping it into the hole (uh huh huh) would have slowly squared the hole. Doesn't take much pressure, and I don't think it would have disturbed the coloration.

I've found dozens of silver rings with my metal detector. They're often bent or even crushed. Putting them back into round with a mandrel and a hammer is pretty simple. Same principle.


Yes I'm an engineer thanks, I did have to take physics and a material engineering course. And the only person who would have bought your finished product was Thiggy.

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 Post subject: Re: Is this unethical?
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wildjag wrote:
Clark has been trying to fit the square block in the round hole his whole life without success.


His head up his ass?

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Rollo Tomassi wrote:
It matters not if the disfigurement is original. HISTORY is our guide and aim.

IF it sells. :lol:


chin:

Weiss wrote:

It's moot regardless. It sold within an hour of me listing it--without the square hole. It's a good piece for what it is.

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