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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2017 10:38 pm 
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for pointing out the mistake, right.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2017 11:09 pm 
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I missed it at first but I now see they got the designer wrong----Not ASG, it's BLP.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2017 11:21 pm 
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In 1908 the quarter eagle motif was changed to feature the portrait of an American Indian, said to have been the first real native American ever shown on a coin. Earlier representations, including the Indian cent, were stylistic and did not represent actual people. Indeed, the Indian cent (minted 1859-1909) represented a woman in a war bonnet, a situation inconsistent with ethnology. Boston sculptor Bela Lyon Pratt, a student of Augustus Saint-Gaudens, was given the task of redesigning the quarter eagle and half eagle, to complete the work of Saint-Gaudens, who had died of cancer the year before.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 1:08 am 
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In 1908 the quarter eagle motif was changed to feature the portrait of an American Indian, said to have been the first real native American ever shown on a coin. Earlier representations, including the Indian cent, were stylistic and did not represent actual people. Indeed, the Indian cent (minted 1859-1909) represented a woman in a war bonnet, a situation inconsistent with ethnology. Boston sculptor Bela Lyon Pratt, a student of Augustus Saint-Gaudens, was given the task of redesigning the quarter eagle and half eagle, to complete the work of Saint-Gaudens, who had died of cancer the year before.


Doesn't that quote, I think it's from Burdette's book, imply that ASG had designed the $2 1/2 and $5 Indians and Pratt was going to redesign them(?) I mean there's a small kernel of truth in it...on the reverse at least. Teddy Roosevelt liked the reverse of ASG's $10 eagle so much that he told Dr. Bigelow (friend of TR) to encourage Pratt to use it but 'make minor' changes. Pratt's eagle has a shorter neck and shorter legs, motto is moved, but he did one last 'minor' design change, he incused it (also a Bigelow suggestion). Pratt's original incused idea was a gradual slope to the relief whereas Bigelow's was a more radical sharp angle.

Also, from Shein's book, Pratt writes his Mother that he has been invited to design what could be the new $2.50 and $5 gold coins that will complete the series that started in 1907, designed by Saint Gaudens.

As far as the obverse is concerned, Pratt worked from a photo of a portrait of a Native American. There was no ASG inspiration, just pure Pratt.

As much as this is Pratt's work, it's Barber's execution that we see today. It's an unfortunate hatchet job when the two renditions are side by side. Barber had to make the design production ready...he had done the same a year earlier to the new $20. Smoething tells me he enjoyed tinkering with Pratt's and ASG's designs. Arschloch.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 9:18 am 
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quote is from QDB, as written in CoinFacts.

Much poetic license taken, indeed. And Barber, fuddernutter that guy


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Barndog wrote:
quote is from QDB, as written in CoinFacts.

Much poetic license taken, indeed. And Barber, fuddernutter that guy


I agree.


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Barndog wrote:
quote is from QDB, as written in CoinFacts.

Much poetic license taken, indeed. And Barber, fuddernutter that guy


Yeah, fudd him.

My Registry 1907 Mint Set gold coins are graded 63-65 'cept for one. My Indian cent is 65 RD. As for the Liberty Nickel, 10c, 25c, and 50c Barbers....I'm leaning towards F-VF. Just enough wear to show 'Liberty' and to punish Chucky for his hatchet jobs on the ASG and BLP designs. Arschloch. Plus, I don't want to have to spend more than I need to on silver. :twisted:

Finding low grades will be challenging enough, especially for the nickel. I may go as high as 58 on it... :D

https://www.pcgs.com/SetRegistry/u-s-co ... bum/149711


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 2:59 pm 
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there is a PCGS40 on the market right now, that's pretty low for a worthless nickel


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 3:13 pm 
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I saw a crusty 58 V Nickel on 'bay for $66. I dunno. Pretty steep for a Chucky, lol.


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plate coins need a picture of both the slab and sticker now?

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Barndog wrote:
there is a PCGS40 on the market right now, that's pretty low for a worthless nickel


LQQK at this beauty. Isn't it perfect?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1907-O-BARBER-S ... 1438.l2649


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a lovely example of that cool guy's work


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Barndog wrote:
a lovely example of that cool guy's work


The one guy ahead of me in the 1907 Registry has shiny white MS65 Barbers on display. Sad, really. His gold is nice, about the same GPA as mine 'cept his HR which is a 64 and a flat edge. Nice.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 11:51 pm 
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I spent $40,000 suffering from registry fever and only looked at the plastic, the coins in the same grade are the same quality right?


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 12:03 am 
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Registry fever? I don't have registry fever. Who said I had registry fever? :oops:


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The first step is admitting you have a problem.....

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I don't have a problem.


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The first step is admitting you have a problem.....



But aren't STICKERS like penicillin?

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