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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2018 4:32 pm 
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I never knew him. But his “friends” here on OFR make him sound like quite an asshole. Glad the ones experienced with this type of thing intervened instead of mocking and writing him off.


Perhaps you should limit your commentary on things you actually know something about. Plenty of people tried to help him in the last twenty years and most of the time those helping hands were bitten.


Mac uses his alcoholism to play the victim card, like a good liberal.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2018 5:38 pm 
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K6AZ wrote:
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I never knew him. But his “friends” here on OFR make him sound like quite an asshole. Glad the ones experienced with this type of thing intervened instead of mocking and writing him off.


Perhaps you should limit your commentary on things you actually know something about. Plenty of people tried to help him in the last twenty years and most of the time those helping hands were bitten.


I dealt with Craton only a little at CU, so I'm ignorant of this.
What did you do to try to help him?
How were hands bitten?


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2018 5:56 pm 
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So you post a flowery eulogy and know little about the deceased?


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2018 6:34 pm 
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Gyocomgd wrote:
K6AZ wrote:
MacGyver wrote:
I never knew him. But his “friends” here on OFR make him sound like quite an asshole. Glad the ones experienced with this type of thing intervened instead of mocking and writing him off.


Perhaps you should limit your commentary on things you actually know something about. Plenty of people tried to help him in the last twenty years and most of the time those helping hands were bitten.


I dealt with Craton only a little at CU, so I'm ignorant of this.
What did you do to try to help him?
How were hands bitten?



Eric helped him MORE, WAY MORE, than I think almost anyone would have ever done.

Not sure why it is necessary for you to know the answers to your questions and not just accept it. Seriously. However, if you want to do any due diligence, just go to CU and other places, and start looking into the ACG lawsuit vs RCC.

What craton did (be friendly, get help, lash out at those who helped him but didn't poke at him...he just lashed out) to Eric was indicative of what he did to myself and others. No need to dredge up all the exact info as that is just bringing back drama (which I think is what you are after) that many of us tried to put behind us and move on.


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He brought Matthews here, grew up with him. Got burned.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2018 6:42 pm 
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He brought Matthews here


Can we ban Craton posthumously for that?

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2018 6:48 pm 
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Gyocomgd wrote:

I dealt with Craton only a little at CU, so I'm ignorant of this.
What did you do to try to help him?
How were hands bitten?


I'm not going beyond what is common knowledge here and over on CU. At this point it will serve no purpose as his life has already been wasted, just another causality of substance abuse. The basics of those addicts is pretty consistent, I saw it with my own sister who managed to finally kill herself six years ago, I saw it with Jason, and I've seen it with others who have been close to me. They get hooked, will steal from family and friends, become increasingly paranoid, and either die of it or find a way to completely ruin their lives.

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He brought Matthews here, grew up with him. Got burned.


Brownie Girl as well.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2018 7:15 pm 
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K6AZ wrote:
MacGyver wrote:
I never knew him. But his “friends” here on OFR make him sound like quite an asshole. Glad the ones experienced with this type of thing intervened instead of mocking and writing him off.


Perhaps you should limit your commentary on things you actually know something about. Plenty of people tried to help him in the last twenty years and most of the time those helping hands were bitten.



So, you’d be one of those who tried to intervene mentioned in my above post.

That was a compliment. :roll:

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2018 7:20 pm 
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MacGyver wrote:
K6AZ wrote:
MacGyver wrote:
I never knew him. But his “friends” here on OFR make him sound like quite an asshole. Glad the ones experienced with this type of thing intervened instead of mocking and writing him off.


Perhaps you should limit your commentary on things you actually know something about. Plenty of people tried to help him in the last twenty years and most of the time those helping hands were bitten.



So, you’d be one of those who tried to intervene mentioned in my above post.

That was a compliment. :roll:

I took it as a sarcastic dig at tumuss.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2018 7:25 pm 
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Neil wrote:
MacGyver wrote:
K6AZ wrote:
MacGyver wrote:
I never knew him. But his “friends” here on OFR make him sound like quite an asshole. Glad the ones experienced with this type of thing intervened instead of mocking and writing him off.


Perhaps you should limit your commentary on things you actually know something about. Plenty of people tried to help him in the last twenty years and most of the time those helping hands were bitten.



So, you’d be one of those who tried to intervene mentioned in my above post.

That was a compliment. :roll:

I took it as a sarcastic dig at tumuss.


Well it wasn’t.

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MacGyver wrote:
So, you’d be one of those who tried to intervene mentioned in my above post.

That was a compliment. :roll:


What you don't understand is most of the other people here tried to help him as well with the same result. My history with him predated online message boards by a number of years back to 1997.

My point in my reply to your post was that you are obviously ignorant of his history with others who post here and to one extent or another all of our experiences were the same. Sometimes if you don't have the full story it's best to reserve comment.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 11:55 am 
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He brought Matthews here


Can we ban Craton posthumously for that?




He told me it was a coin forum. :mad:
Now I'm stuck for life with you cool guys. :mad:


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 3:33 pm 
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I chatted online with Craton a few times and bought a buffalo from him. Turned out to be AT and I way overpaid. I was fairly new to collecting. He said he thought it was real and was sorry. Don't know if he was doing drugs back then. It was not big dollars and I never really thought of it until now. RIP.


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he dug this chick back in the day (as I did)


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Every junkie's like a setting sun. RIP Craton.

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he took a lot of Elmo on here and he owned up to some Elmo on here that most wouldn't.

I never had a problem with him and he and I would chat here and there and even when he'd disappear from here I'd check in on him.

I posted earlier last year that I had tried to contact him to no avail. I believe it was then anyways. that would have been my attempt to check in on him and see how his battle was going. apparently not well.

I've been told by druggies, former druggies that were druggies for years and now clean for years, that every single day is an immense battle to keep from using.


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Id seen him around but never knew him sorry that hes gone

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