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PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 9:07 pm 
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Constitutional Amendment Process

The authority to amend the Constitution of the United States is derived from Article V of the Constitution. After Congress proposes an amendment, the Archivist of the United States, who heads the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA), is charged with responsibility for administering the ratification process under the provisions of 1 U.S.C. 106b. The Archivist has delegated many of the ministerial duties associated with this function to the Director of the Federal Register. Neither Article V of the Constitution nor section 106b describe the ratification process in detail. The Archivist and the Director of the Federal Register follow procedures and customs established by the Secretary of State, who performed these duties until 1950, and the Administrator of General Services, who served in this capacity until NARA assumed responsibility as an independent agency in 1985.

The Constitution provides that an amendment may be proposed either by the Congress with a two-thirds majority vote in both the House of Representatives and the Senate or by a constitutional convention called for by two-thirds of the State legislatures. None of the 27 amendments to the Constitution have been proposed by constitutional convention. The Congress proposes an amendment in the form of a joint resolution. Since the President does not have a constitutional role in the amendment process, the joint resolution does not go to the White House for signature or approval. The original document is forwarded directly to NARA's Office of the Federal Register (OFR) for processing and publication. The OFR adds legislative history notes to the joint resolution and publishes it in slip law format. The OFR also assembles an information package for the States which includes formal "red-line" copies of the joint resolution, copies of the joint resolution in slip law format, and the statutory procedure for ratification under 1 U.S.C. 106b.

The Archivist submits the proposed amendment to the States for their consideration by sending a letter of notification to each Governor along with the informational material prepared by the OFR. The Governors then formally submit the amendment to their State legislatures or the state calls for a convention, depending on what Congress has specified. In the past, some State legislatures have not waited to receive official notice before taking action on a proposed amendment. When a State ratifies a proposed amendment, it sends the Archivist an original or certified copy of the State action, which is immediately conveyed to the Director of the Federal Register. The OFR examines ratification documents for facial legal sufficiency and an authenticating signature. If the documents are found to be in good order, the Director acknowledges receipt and maintains custody of them. The OFR retains these documents until an amendment is adopted or fails, and then transfers the records to the National Archives for preservation.

A proposed amendment becomes part of the Constitution as soon as it is ratified by three-fourths of the States (38 of 50 States). When the OFR verifies that it has received the required number of authenticated ratification documents, it drafts a formal proclamation for the Archivist to certify that the amendment is valid and has become part of the Constitution. This certification is published in the Federal Register and U.S. Statutes at Large and serves as official notice to the Congress and to the Nation that the amendment process has been completed.

In a few instances, States have sent official documents to NARA to record the rejection of an amendment or the rescission of a prior ratification. The Archivist does not make any substantive determinations as to the validity of State ratification actions, but it has been established that the Archivist's certification of the facial legal sufficiency of ratification documents is final and conclusive.

In recent history, the signing of the certification has become a ceremonial function attended by various dignitaries, which may include the President. President Johnson signed the certifications for the 24th and 25th Amendments as a witness, and President Nixon similarly witnessed the certification of the 26th Amendment along with three young scholars. On May 18, 1992, the Archivist performed the duties of the certifying official for the first time to recognize the ratification of the 27th Amendment, and the Director of the Federal Register signed the certification as a witness.


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This part will likely hang you up.

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The OFR examines ratification documents for facial legal sufficiency and an authenticating signature. If the documents are found to be in good order, the Director acknowledges receipt and maintains custody of them. The OFR retains these documents until an amendment is adopted or fails, and then transfers the records to the National Archives for preservation.



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No need to amend it when you can get the judges you want.

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You don't need a constitutional amendment. We already have strict rules against firearm ownership in this country.

Do we know yet where this young man acquired the AR variant he apparently used to murder 17 people?

If so: Charge that person with 17 counts of murder (and however many counts of attempted murder).

Do this every time a firearm is used in a "mental health" related murder.

Additionally: Instead of paying lip service to this being a mental health problem while cutting funding for mental health treatment, as Trump (PBUClustereff) has done, fund mental health treatment. Subsidize it with a tax on ammo. Doesn't have to be much--maybe 10%. That would equate to approximately $250,000,000 per year.

Don't create laws that keep lawful Americans from being able to purchase firearms. That's unconstitutional. But you can hold them accountable for their actions. That's not just legally correct, it's morally correct.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 2:10 pm 
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Additionally: Instead of paying lip service to this being a mental health problem while cutting funding for mental health treatment, as Trump (PBUClustereff) has done, fund mental health treatment. Subsidize it with a tax on ammo. Doesn't have to be much--maybe 10%. That would equate to approximately $250,000,000 per year.


Better yet, impose a 10% on all property rentals. Many of these deranged killers do not own their own homes.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 2:14 pm 
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How has Trump cut funding for mental health treatment? Sounds like the media has been reading from Democrat faxes again.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 2:26 pm 
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How has Trump cut funding for mental health treatment? Sounds like the media has been reading from Democrat faxes again.

He didn’t do it. It never happened. 2019 proposed budget for Department of Health and Human Services up 9.4 billion. He does want to kill some of the insurance premium subsidies that barry turned into a new entitlement.


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I wish people would learn to question what they read in the news. Cuts are seldom cuts.

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You don't need a constitutional amendment. We already have strict rules against firearm ownership in this country.

Do we know yet where this young man acquired the AR variant he apparently used to murder 17 people?

If so: Charge that person with 17 counts of murder (and however many counts of attempted murder).

Do this every time a firearm is used in a "mental health" related murder.

Additionally: Instead of paying lip service to this being a mental health problem while cutting funding for mental health treatment, as Trump (PBUClustereff) has done, fund mental health treatment. Subsidize it with a tax on ammo. Doesn't have to be much--maybe 10%. That would equate to approximately $250,000,000 per year.

Don't create laws that keep lawful Americans from being able to purchase firearms. That's unconstitutional. But you can hold them accountable for their actions. That's not just legally correct, it's morally correct.


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I would ask if this is a joke but thats all democrats are today. The presidential painting is a wonderful piece of art. To prevent mass shootings lets raise taxes & imprison innocent people for what someone else does
You cant make this shit up

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Weiss wrote:
You don't need a constitutional amendment. We already have strict rules against firearm ownership in this country.

Do we know yet where this young man acquired the AR variant he apparently used to murder 17 people?

If so: Charge that person with 17 counts of murder (and however many counts of attempted murder).




So by your logic, anyone who sells someone a car and that someone kills someone... the car seller is charged with murder?


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Cars aren't specifically made for murder, wait, what?


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 3:12 pm 
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It’s a perfect plan. Give someone a license to sell firearms, then arrest him for selling firearms.

Genius!

Reminds me of the marijuana tax stamps.


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wildjag wrote:
Weiss wrote:
You don't need a constitutional amendment. We already have strict rules against firearm ownership in this country.

Do we know yet where this young man acquired the AR variant he apparently used to murder 17 people?

If so: Charge that person with 17 counts of murder (and however many counts of attempted murder).




So by your logic, anyone who sells someone a car and that someone kills someone... the car seller is charged with murder?


Weiss says a lot of dumb Elmo. That stuff sets a new low standard for him.

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http://www.businessinsider.com/florida-shooter-nikolas-cruz-bought-ar-15-legally-2018-2

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Nikolas Cruz, the troubled 19-year-old suspected of killing 17 and injuring over a dozen in a shooting spree at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkville, Florida, legally purchased the AR-15 rifle he allegedly used in the crime.

Cruz bought the semi-automatic rifle about a year ago, and law enforcement agents said it was done legally, Buzzfeed News' Tom Namako reported.

Cruz's lawyer also told the Fort Lauderdale Sun Sentinel that Cruz possessed the AR-15 allegedly used in the shooting legally. He has since been charged with 17 counts of premeditated murder, for which he could face the death penalty.

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wildjag wrote:
Weiss wrote:
You don't need a constitutional amendment. We already have strict rules against firearm ownership in this country.

Do we know yet where this young man acquired the AR variant he apparently used to murder 17 people?

If so: Charge that person with 17 counts of murder (and however many counts of attempted murder).




So by your logic, anyone who sells someone a car and that someone kills someone... the car seller is charged with murder?


Weiss says a lot of dumb Elmo. That stuff sets a new low standard for him.


Does our armed services carry cars into battle? Police holster cars on their hips?

If a bar tender sells alcohol to a drunk, and they go kill smoeone with their car, you know who is liable?

Gun dealers already do background checks. This is nothing but a rational, measured enhancement to this program. You sell a device specifically designed to kill humans. You fill out a form and press a button, you wash your hands of responsibility? Nonsense. Perform your due diligence. Make sure your standards are reasonable. Maintain $10, $20 million in liability insurance.

Though to be fair, I wasn't thinking of retailers. I mean the average chuckle head who keeps a loaded AR next to their bed, with hand loaded .500 wad cutters or whatever the hell it was.

DeMartrius breaks into his home and steals that AR while you're at work then kills smoeone with it? You go to jail too.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 6:03 pm 
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Weiss wrote:

If a bar tender sells alcohol to a drunk, and they go kill smoeone with their car, you know who is liable?


Yes.

If a bartender serves someone that's clearly intoxicated, he and the owner of the bar are partly responsible for a civil wrongful death suit.


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