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 Post subject: Backing up ...????
PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 3:19 pm 
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When you guys say to back up, are you advocating saving files on DVDs?

AND....

if the SYSTEM changes and like, W25 hates W7 would the original program discs still work enough to OPEN the files?

Wish I knowed puters like I know guns. :neutral:


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 Post subject: Re: Backing up ...????
PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 4:20 pm 
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No, DVDs are not a backup media. In five years, a handful of DVDs out of your stack are likely to be unreadable. They are not for long term data storage.

Whether your files work into the future depends on the sort of files:

Image files, audio files, movie files, these will have a long life. You don't have to do much to keep those around and openable.

Your "quicken" financial documents will be valid only so long as there's a 'quicken' app. If that application ever stops being made, you'd better choose a new financial app and import your data into that one.
So there are certain kinds of documents where you may have to migrate your data some day to a more modern application.
No, you cannot assume that some application that worked on an old version of windows will still work fifteen years from now on a different version of windows. You have to carry your data forward more carefully than that.

I have a wireless base station. Attached to that base station is a "RAID" array of drives. This is what I back up my computers to. Although I am safe if a single drive fails, the RAID unit as a whole can fail, and if it does, I lose my backups.
On the Mac, it's "Time Machine" that backs things up. On windows, it's "Windows Backup".


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 Post subject: Re: Backing up ...????
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I suggest you suspend your computer from a pair of chains at a distance of 150 yards. You know the rest.


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 Post subject: Re: Backing up ...????
PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 5:57 pm 
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This....


http://www.pcworld.com/article/2065126/ ... ur-pc.html

says a thumb drive is better than a DVD.
Is that correct?

Looks like ext HD is a practical thing to do.


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 Post subject: Re: Backing up ...????
PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 8:59 pm 
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You need to evaluate the size of what you are backing up, and also how you back it up. It is just a copy at a single point in time, or will you be maintaining some sort of update schedule?

I have a handful of computers, whose hard drives have a total of about 5TB of stuff shared between them right now. But my backup scheme also can 'go back in time'. It records everything that happened, and I can go back to any point, so it ends up eventually taking much data than 5TB for the backup. Currently, it appears that my total backup size is currently 11TB. That sort of storage comes from a 'Drobo' raid array.

Within that stuff are the images and movies I really want to keep, about 3TB that doesn't change and gets slowly added to.

Also, I make additional copies of the movies and images I really want to keep, and I store those off-site.

For me, 5TB is a little too much to be sending over the internet, but you may want to consider a web-based "cloud backup" service.

I rarely go back in time to a previous backup, but I have done full restores from this system before; it's important to verify your process actually works before committing so much time and effort to it.


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 Post subject: Re: Backing up ...????
PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 9:02 pm 
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for you, i suspect your files are:

"gun1.jpg"
"coin_list.txt"
"silver_hoard.txt"

and that'll fit on any USB thumb drive.


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 Post subject: Re: Backing up ...????
PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 7:20 am 
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You mean I could get several TB on guns backed up?


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Backing up is one of the things my 13 TB NAS is doing.

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Not backing up is much more exciting. Live on the edge. Get that adrenaline going. Don't be such a here kitty kitty. :lol:


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